BSMA Kills Devil Hills

I may have to reconsider. Herb may actually like English cole slaw. Mustard
and sugar.

Oy.

However, I am impressed by the recommendation to try nuoc mam. But we are
moving dangerously close to Kimchi territory here.

-Bob

On 10/11/07, Herb Blumstein wrote:
>
> Thank you Bob – that is a new one for me – the almost pureed onion, I
> mean. Caraway is ok but I prefer it in schnapps/aquavit. It doesn't
> prevent flatulence and it is disruptive in cole slaw. Just when you are
> settling down to the spicy, sweet and salty taste of the cabbage, the
> slightly bitter, acrid taste of caraway distracts your taste buds. I don't
> love it in rye bread either.
> I can't begin to think how many times I've eaten cole slaw – especially
> when we were tight for money.
> My own recipes:
> Basic:
> 1. Head of young and sweet light-green cabbage, quartered with the stem
> core (the heart!) removed. None of that giant, fibrous cabbage stuff and no
> red/blue/purple cabbage -it is too coarse and tough.
> 2. Carefully slice down across the short dimension of each quarter of the
> cabbage – widths no greater than 1/4 of an inch, preferably less. Do not
> dice or chop cabbage or throw it about impatiently.
> At this point, I usually wash the sliced cabbage in a colander and then
> dry it throughly – but then I'm the only one I know who does that.
> 3. Use a mandoline to slice one-half (or more!) of an onion very thinly.
> Or if you are truly skilled, slice it with a knife. Don't worry if you cry
> into the onion it – it will improve the flavor.
> 4.Two or three large sweet carrots – taste them first! – grated. If you
> haven't got sweet carrots, leave them out. Consider very finely julienned
> sweet red or yellow peppers as a possible alternative to carrots – but much
> more work to do that
> 5. Toss with dressing and let stand – an hour is ok, more is better. In
> the fridge, of course.
>
> Basic dressings:
> 1. Mayonnaise – If store bought check for taste and add dijon mustard,
> some lemon or vinegar (apple cider vinegar, malt vinegar, rice vinegar – not
> wine vinegar) – not too much!
> You can add some white wine, very little, maybe a tablespoon.
> Some white sugar – a scant teaspoon or less.
> Fresh ground pepper. Me, I like a bit of hot sauce as well.
> Salt, only after you have tossed the salad with the mayonnaise and found
> it lacking in salt!
>
> 2. Oil (olive, walnut) and vinegar – some dijon mustard, fresh ground
> pepper and salt, a teaspoon or less of sugar, to taste,shaken (not
> stirred),. Not too much salt! Add some hot sauce – without garlic!
>
> 3. Soy sauce, walnut or other light oil, some toasted sesame oil, a little
> sugar, rice vinegar and hot stuff – no garlic.
>
> Enhancers
> 1. Curry added to the mayonnaise- to taste. Bump up the sugar, mustard and
> hot stuff a bit.
> 2. Caraway seeds- for those who must have them.
> 3. Ground cumin added to the mayonnaise, in small quantities only.
> 4. Cilantro, leaves only, finely sliced. Some people like parsley…some
> don't
> 5. Golden seedless raisins
> 6. Finely julienned tart green apples
> 7. For the truly adventurous, some nuoc mam or other type of fermented
> fish oil and bump up the vinegar, hot sauce and sugar a bit. Yes, you do
> develop a taste for it! Just keep it off your hands…
> et cetera
> Let's face it, there are tons of possibilities. The only true prohibition
> (to my narrow mind) is against the use of garlic – and that's coming from a
> garlic lover.
> Let's hear some more recipes.
> Herb
>
>
>
> On 10/10/07, Bob Morgen wrote:
> >
> > If Herb's theory were right, then we would have even finer cole slaw
> > here in England. Some of our cabbages are the size of pumpkins. And about as
> > tough on the outside.
> >
> > I will keep my opinion of English cole slaw brief.
> >
> > Garbage.
> >
> > Here is my recipe for perfect cole slaw, based on the one I used to make
> > at the Wild Mountain Café in Mill Valley during my misspent youth:
> >
> > Mince an onion to near pureé status. Mix it into a cup of mayo and add a
> > tsp of caraway seeds. Grate a carrot into it. Add just enough chopped
> > cabbage (color irrelevant) to thin out the mayonnaise to a non-guilt level.
> > Let it sit a couple of hours in the fridge. Eat.
> >
> > The English put cole slaw onto ham sandwiches. Nuff said.
> >
> > -Bob
> >
> > On 10/10/07, Libby Trudell wrote:
> > >
> > > That's one impressive lighthouse. Hope you are bearing up under the
> > > heat –
> > > we are actually having a light autumnal rain here at the moment.
> > >
> > > —–Original Message—–
> > > From: boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net [mailto: boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 4:01 PM
> > > To: Vox; Boogs Sack
> > > Subject: BSMA Kills Devil Hills
> > >
> > > 9 Oct.
> > > Another scorching day with a spectacular ride up pea island and bodie
> > > island. Thousands of birds. Welcome center had good scopes.
> > >
> > > Lunch break in the beach town Nags Head.
> > >
> > > New record temp. Lucky us.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cole Slaw. There must be a thousand variations on three basic sauces.
> > > But
> > > why is it that the Slaw is always best in the East?
> > >
> > > Another fine pound of perfect steamed local shrimp. Sigh.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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>Is it okay to use Napa cabbage

I've never done it and there is only one way to find out!

But, as Herb correctly points out, California cabbage is wimpy, and Napa
cabbage the wimpiest of all.

Just bought some UK King Cabbage. This stuff is so tough, it bites back.
Will start boiling it this morning. Should be done for tomorrow or maybe
Saturday. Sharon will be reminded of my foray into preparing Groaty Pudding
some years ago. It had to cook for about 5 days. But it lasted for months!

-Bob

On 10/11/07, Dianne Ellsworth wrote:
>
> Bob,
>
> Is it okay to use Napa cabbage for your recipe? I've got some leftover
> and had been contemplating making cole slaw out of it. Your recipe was
> timely. It ain't Mill Valley cabbage, but close enough?
>
> Thx,
>
> Dee
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: Bob Morgen
> Sent: Oct 10, 2007 3:07 PM
> To: Libby Trudell
> Cc: boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net, Vox <980286c3a15f1c66@moblog.vox.com>,
> Boogs Sack
> Subject: Re: BSMA Kills Devil Hills
>
> If Herb's theory were right, then we would have even finer cole slaw here
> in England. Some of our cabbages are the size of pumpkins. And about as
> tough on the outside.
>
> I will keep my opinion of English cole slaw brief.
>
> Garbage.
>
> Here is my recipe for perfect cole slaw, based on the one I used to make
> at the Wild Mountain Café in Mill Valley during my misspent youth:
>
> Mince an onion to near pureé status. Mix it into a cup of mayo and add a
> tsp of caraway seeds. Grate a carrot into it. Add just enough chopped
> cabbage (color irrelevant) to thin out the mayonnaise to a non-guilt level.
> Let it sit a couple of hours in the fridge. Eat.
>
> The English put cole slaw onto ham sandwiches. Nuff said.
>
> -Bob
>
> On 10/10/07, Libby Trudell wrote:
> >
> > That's one impressive lighthouse. Hope you are bearing up under the
> > heat –
> > we are actually having a light autumnal rain here at the moment.
> >
> > —–Original Message—–
> > From: boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net [mailto: boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 4:01 PM
> > To: Vox; Boogs Sack
> > Subject: BSMA Kills Devil Hills
> >
> > 9 Oct.
> > Another scorching day with a spectacular ride up pea island and bodie
> > island. Thousands of birds. Welcome center had good scopes.
> >
> > Lunch break in the beach town Nags Head.
> >
> > New record temp. Lucky us.
> >
> >
> > Cole Slaw. There must be a thousand variations on three basic sauces.
> > But
> > why is it that the Slaw is always best in the East?
> >
> > Another fine pound of perfect steamed local shrimp. Sigh.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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Thank you Bob – that is a new one for me – the almost pureed onion, I mean.
Caraway is ok but I prefer it in schnapps/aquavit. It doesn't prevent
flatulence and it is disruptive in cole slaw. Just when you are settling
down to the spicy, sweet and salty taste of the cabbage, the slightly
bitter, acrid taste of caraway distracts your taste buds. I don't love it
in rye bread either.
I can't begin to think how many times I've eaten cole slaw – especially
when we were tight for money.
My own recipes:
Basic:
1. Head of young and sweet light-green cabbage, quartered with the stem core
(the heart!) removed. None of that giant, fibrous cabbage stuff and no
red/blue/purple cabbage -it is too coarse and tough.
2. Carefully slice down across the short dimension of each quarter of the
cabbage – widths no greater than 1/4 of an inch, preferably less. Do not
dice or chop cabbage or throw it about impatiently.
At this point, I usually wash the sliced cabbage in a colander and then dry
it throughly – but then I'm the only one I know who does that.
3. Use a mandoline to slice one-half (or more!) of an onion very thinly. Or
if you are truly skilled, slice it with a knife. Don't worry if you cry
into the onion it – it will improve the flavor.
4.Two or three large sweet carrots – taste them first! – grated. If you
haven't got sweet carrots, leave them out. Consider very finely julienned
sweet red or yellow peppers as a possible alternative to carrots – but much
more work to do that
5. Toss with dressing and let stand – an hour is ok, more is better. In the
fridge, of course.

Basic dressings:
1. Mayonnaise – If store bought check for taste and add dijon mustard, some
lemon or vinegar (apple cider vinegar, malt vinegar, rice vinegar – not wine
vinegar) – not too much!
You can add some white wine, very little, maybe a tablespoon.
Some white sugar – a scant teaspoon or less.
Fresh ground pepper. Me, I like a bit of hot sauce as well.
Salt, only after you have tossed the salad with the mayonnaise and found it
lacking in salt!

2. Oil (olive, walnut) and vinegar – some dijon mustard, fresh ground
pepper and salt, a teaspoon or less of sugar, to taste,shaken (not
stirred),. Not too much salt! Add some hot sauce – without garlic!

3. Soy sauce, walnut or other light oil, some toasted sesame oil, a little
sugar, rice vinegar and hot stuff – no garlic.

Enhancers
1. Curry added to the mayonnaise- to taste. Bump up the sugar, mustard and
hot stuff a bit.
2. Caraway seeds- for those who must have them.
3. Ground cumin added to the mayonnaise, in small quantities only.
4. Cilantro, leaves only, finely sliced. Some people like parsley…some
don't
5. Golden seedless raisins
6. Finely julienned tart green apples
7. For the truly adventurous, some nuoc mam or other type of fermented fish
oil and bump up the vinegar, hot sauce and sugar a bit. Yes, you do develop
a taste for it! Just keep it off your hands…
et cetera
Let's face it, there are tons of possibilities. The only true prohibition
(to my narrow mind) is against the use of garlic – and that's coming from a
garlic lover.
Let's hear some more recipes.
Herb

On 10/10/07, Bob Morgen wrote:
>
> If Herb's theory were right, then we would have even finer cole slaw here
> in England. Some of our cabbages are the size of pumpkins. And about as
> tough on the outside.
>
> I will keep my opinion of English cole slaw brief.
>
> Garbage.
>
> Here is my recipe for perfect cole slaw, based on the one I used to make
> at the Wild Mountain Café in Mill Valley during my misspent youth:
>
> Mince an onion to near pureé status. Mix it into a cup of mayo and add a
> tsp of caraway seeds. Grate a carrot into it. Add just enough chopped
> cabbage (color irrelevant) to thin out the mayonnaise to a non-guilt level.
> Let it sit a couple of hours in the fridge. Eat.
>
> The English put cole slaw onto ham sandwiches. Nuff said.
>
> -Bob
>
> On 10/10/07, Libby Trudell wrote:
> >
> > That's one impressive lighthouse. Hope you are bearing up under the
> > heat –
> > we are actually having a light autumnal rain here at the moment.
> >
> > —–Original Message—–
> > From: boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net [mailto: boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 4:01 PM
> > To: Vox; Boogs Sack
> > Subject: BSMA Kills Devil Hills
> >
> > 9 Oct.
> > Another scorching day with a spectacular ride up pea island and bodie
> > island. Thousands of birds. Welcome center had good scopes.
> >
> > Lunch break in the beach town Nags Head.
> >
> > New record temp. Lucky us.
> >
> >
> > Cole Slaw. There must be a thousand variations on three basic sauces.
> > But
> > why is it that the Slaw is always best in the East?
> >
> > Another fine pound of perfect steamed local shrimp. Sigh.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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Bob,

Is it okay to use Napa cabbage for your recipe?  I've got some leftover and had been contemplating making cole slaw out of it.  Your recipe was timely.  It ain't Mill Valley cabbage, but close enough?

Thx,

Dee

—–Original Message—–
From: Bob Morgen
Sent: Oct 10, 2007 3:07 PM
To: Libby Trudell
Cc: boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net, Vox <980286c3a15f1c66@moblog.vox.com>, Boogs Sack
Subject: Re: BSMA Kills Devil Hills

If Herb's theory were right, then we would have even finer cole slaw here in England. Some of our cabbages are the size of pumpkins. And about as tough on the outside.

I will keep my opinion of English cole slaw brief.

Garbage.

Here is my recipe for perfect cole slaw, based on the one I used to make at the Wild Mountain Café in Mill Valley during my misspent youth:

Mince an onion to near pureé status. Mix it into a cup of mayo and add a tsp of caraway seeds. Grate a carrot into it. Add just enough chopped cabbage (color irrelevant) to thin out the mayonnaise to a non-guilt level.  Let it sit a couple of hours in the fridge.  Eat.

The English put cole slaw onto ham sandwiches. Nuff said.

-Bob

On 10/10/07, Libby Trudell <ltrudell@netbox.com > wrote:

That's one impressive lighthouse.  Hope you are bearing up under the heat –
we are actually having a light  autumnal rain here at the moment.

—–Original Message—–
From: boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net [mailto: boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 4:01 PM
To: Vox; Boogs Sack
Subject: BSMA Kills Devil Hills

9 Oct.
Another scorching day with a spectacular ride up pea island and bodie
island. Thousands of birds. Welcome center had good scopes.

Lunch break in the beach town Nags Head.

New record temp. Lucky us.

Cole Slaw. There must be a thousand variations on three basic sauces. But
why is  it that  the Slaw is always best in the East?

Another fine pound of perfect steamed local shrimp. Sigh.

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The recipe for cole slaw made with melted butter is intriguing.

Weird, but intriguing. I may have to make this to see if it is acceptable.

-Bob

On 10/11/07, boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net wrote:
>
> Here is a bit more on cole slaw.
>
> http://www.foodtimeline.org/foodsalads.html
>
> Hihi
>
>
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: "Bob Morgen"
>
> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 23:07:22
> To:"Libby Trudell"
> Cc:boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net, Vox <980286c3a15f1c66@moblog.vox.com>,"Boogs
> Sack"
> Subject: Re: BSMA Kills Devil Hills
>
>
> If Herb's theory were right, then we would have even finer cole slaw here
> in England. Some of our cabbages are the size of pumpkins. And about as
> tough on the outside.
>
> I will keep my opinion of English cole slaw brief.
>
> Garbage.
>
> Here is my recipe for perfect cole slaw, based on the one I used to make
> at the Wild Mountain Café in Mill Valley during my misspent youth:
>
> Mince an onion to near pureé status. Mix it into a cup of mayo and add a
> tsp of caraway seeds. Grate a carrot into it. Add just enough chopped
> cabbage (color irrelevant) to thin out the mayonnaise to a non-guilt level.
> Let it sit a couple of hours in the fridge. Eat.
>
> The English put cole slaw onto ham sandwiches. Nuff said.
>
> -Bob
>
>
> On 10/10/07, Libby Trudell > > wrote:That's one impressive lighthouse.Hopeyou are bearing up under the heat –
> we are actually having a lightautumnal rain here at the moment.
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net > > [mailto:
> boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net ]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 4:01 PM
> To: Vox; Boogs Sack
> Subject: BSMA Kills Devil Hills
>
> 9 Oct.
> Another scorching day with a spectacular ride up pea island and bodie
> island. Thousands of birds. Welcome center had good scopes.
>
> Lunch break in the beach town Nags Head.
>
> New record temp. Lucky us.
>
>
> Cole Slaw. There must be a thousand variations on three basic sauces. But
> why isit thatthe Slaw is always best in the East?
>
> Another fine pound of perfect steamed local shrimp. Sigh.
>
>
>
>
>
>

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If Herb's theory were right, then we would have even finer cole slaw here in
England. Some of our cabbages are the size of pumpkins. And about as tough
on the outside.

I will keep my opinion of English cole slaw brief.

Garbage.

Here is my recipe for perfect cole slaw, based on the one I used to make at
the Wild Mountain Café in Mill Valley during my misspent youth:

Mince an onion to near pureé status. Mix it into a cup of mayo and add a tsp
of caraway seeds. Grate a carrot into it. Add just enough chopped cabbage
(color irrelevant) to thin out the mayonnaise to a non-guilt level. Let it
sit a couple of hours in the fridge. Eat.

The English put cole slaw onto ham sandwiches. Nuff said.

-Bob

On 10/10/07, Libby Trudell wrote:
>
> That's one impressive lighthouse. Hope you are bearing up under the heat
> –
> we are actually having a light autumnal rain here at the moment.
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net [mailto:boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 4:01 PM
> To: Vox; Boogs Sack
> Subject: BSMA Kills Devil Hills
>
> 9 Oct.
> Another scorching day with a spectacular ride up pea island and bodie
> island. Thousands of birds. Welcome center had good scopes.
>
> Lunch break in the beach town Nags Head.
>
> New record temp. Lucky us.
>
>
> Cole Slaw. There must be a thousand variations on three basic sauces. But
> why is it that the Slaw is always best in the East?
>
> Another fine pound of perfect steamed local shrimp. Sigh.
>
>
>
>
>

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That's one impressive lighthouse. Hope you are bearing up under the heat –
we are actually having a light autumnal rain here at the moment.

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It must be the cabbage – in the East it has to be strong enough to withstand
torrid summers and horriblly cold, wet winters, while our West Coast
cabbage is kind of namby-pamby, never forced to stand up to a weather
challenge. Ergo, Strong cabbage equals good slaw. QED
Also the fact that you were hungry enough to chew asphalt when you sat down
to eat may have contributed to the taste of the kohl slaw.
Don't send any scorching days our way, please!

On 10/9/07, boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net wrote:
>
> 9 Oct.
> Another scorching day with a spectacular ride up pea island and bodie
> island. Thousands of birds. Welcome center had good scopes.
>
> Lunch break in the beach town Nags Head.
>
> New record temp. Lucky us.
>
>
> Cole Slaw. There must be a thousand variations on three basic sauces. But
> why is it that the Slaw is always best in the East?
>
> Another fine pound of perfect steamed local shrimp. Sigh.
>
>
>
>

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9 Oct.
Another scorching day with a spectacular ride up pea island and bodie island. Thousands of birds. Welcome center had good scopes.

Lunch break in the beach town Nags Head.

New record temp. Lucky us.

Cole Slaw. There must be a thousand variations on three basic sauces. But why is it that the Slaw is always best in the East?

Another fine pound of perfect steamed local shrimp. Sigh.

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