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Okay, Bob–go to your room!  (I thought "gluble" was the search engine for fish?)

-Dee

—–Original Message—–
From: Bob Morgen
Sent: Oct 8, 2007 4:50 PM
To: Herb Blumstein
Cc: Dianne Ellsworth , boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net, Vox <980286c3a15f1c66@moblog.vox.com>, Boogs Sack
Subject: Re: BSMA Buxton

Isn't Wahoo a search engine for fish?

-Bob

On 10/9/07, Herb Blumstein <herbblumstein@gmail.com > wrote:

All hail Dee, the researcher par excellence! 

What about Opakapaka – another great fish we had in Maui?

 

On 10/8/07, Dianne Ellsworth <ellswortha@earthlink.net > wrote:

Well, I am very impressed by all the due diligence here in the matter of Ono vs. Ono.  Here's some more ephemera I ran across after a quick visit to the Web:

"Acanthocybium solandri

Choice eating fish with white, delicate, flaky meat. The Hawaiian word for "delicious" is `ono. Ono (no `okina, a diacritical mark) is the fish, and ono is `ono!

The ancient Hawaiians said that the ono was the parent of the `ôpelu, a mackerel scad, a fish of great importance to the subsistence living of the early Hawaiians.

Early European explorers found ono to be plentiful off the island of O`ahu. Wahoo, the common mainland name for this fish is thought to originate from the misspelling of O`ahu on maps as "Wahoo."

This was from some geocities site I ran across.

What do y'all think of the possible name attribution for Wahoo?

Also, without going in to where I was when I saw the following, I did see a menu the other day from around 1943 advertising "bluefish with butter sauce" for 80 cents!  I bet you paid a tad more for you bluefish dish, eh Jeff?

Dee

—–Original Message—–
From: Herb Blumstein
Sent: Oct 8, 2007 2:00 PM
To: Bob Morgen
Cc: boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net, Vox <980286c3a15f1c66@moblog.vox.com>, Boogs Sack
Subject: Re: BSMA Buxton

If Wahoo is Ono (or Oahu fish) in Hawaii – as seems to be the case from the various sites I've plumbed for information – then it definitely doesn' t taste like mackerel, judging from the Ono I ate in Maui – very good.  That said, Wahoo is acknowledged to be a "scombrid" fish meaning amember of the Scombridae – the mackerel family, even though its moniker is Anthocybium solanderii – very confusing.  Very tasty fish.  As for mackerel – if it is fresh and properly prepared (including as sashimi or nigiri) it is also tasty, though some faint of heart landlubbers complain about the strong taste – that fishiness increases with decreasing freshness.  Smoked mackerel can be reall y  good.

Nuff said.

Apple uglies are not for diabetics like me – too bad!

On 10/7/07, Bob Morgen <bob.morgen@intransa.com > wrote:

Looks like mackerel to me!

I want apple uglies.I looked up the recipe. Basically they are are a rich sweet bread dough  (like raised doughnut dough) filled with apple pie filling, folded and fried. Then glazed with sugar syrup. This is American cooking at its finest. I wonder how many QB bought.

Hush puppies, a nearly perfect food, are corn bread dough with minced onions, rolled into balls and deep fried.

-bob

On 10/8/07, boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net < boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net> wrote:

7 Oct.

Turns out that this is a holiday weekend so places to stay, clean ones, were mostly sold out. Short day today and likely a very long day tomorrow.  Tall lighthouse here as well as apple uglies.

At 260ft it is the tallest in USA. Or so the ranger said. We climbed up for the view.

Herb and Judi references are particularly interesting. An almost noncongruent list of names.  Both of us are dining on Wahoo this evening. See pic.

Also having hush puppies. Are these the same as cornbread except for deep frying instead of baking?

Bob. L did indeed try taste but got confused by kipper and defeated by New England clam chowder.

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I would pay a large fee NOT to stay in a house with those cushion covers. My
eyes hurt.

I like cream of broccoli soup. Tonight I made onion gravy with generous
lashings of double cream on roast baby chickens and fettucine. No
complaints. Except from the Moroccan girl who wouldn't eat the chicken
because it wasn't halal. But she practically drank the gravy.

-Bob

On 10/9/07, boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net wrote:
>
> 8 oct.
> As an experiment we took a house for a night. Low priced until the fees
> kept adding and adding and adding.
>
> Well, at least we get to do a picnic lunch out of the heat.
>
> The house is quite near the beach, three bedroom, two path with a list of
> rules a page long. We pay a cleaning fee and a deposit. Looks to me that
> we have to do all the cleaning to avoid forfiture and they get to pocket the
> fee.
>
> The house is for sale for $399K. About 6 other houses for sale on the
> block. At the énd of the street is a pier for fishing a wonderful
> beach. See pic. It looks much better than the pic.
>
> The quality of construction is appalling. Hard to imagine it can
> withstand even a few winters and salt filled breezes. Doors are not hung
> even close to flush. Good appliances and fine for a night or a week.
>
> The ride to Rodanthe was hot but otherwise excellent. For about 12 miles
> the road is only wide enough for the road so we have the dunes and ocean on
> one side and the Sound on the oppisite side. Rode from coffee shop to
> coffee shop; there were only two availaible all day but both were
> excellent. QB acquired muffins and an excellent cinnamon bun. Get to do
> laundry tonight with a real machine.
>
> Kudos to the assignment takers. The quality and quantity of reseach and
> now imparted knowledge on the fish known locally only as Wahoo is impressive
> and useful for those needing filler in a mystery or travel book. As
> mentioned earlier the locals insist that the name comes from the feeling of
> catching the fish.
>
> The recent discovery of a seach engine of the same name ranks along with
> cream of broccoli soup.
>
>
>
>
>
>

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8 oct.
As an experiment we took a house for a night. Low priced until the fees kept adding and adding and adding.

Well, at least we get to do a picnic lunch out of the heat.

The house is quite near the beach, three bedroom, two path with a list of rules a page long. We pay a cleaning fee and a deposit. Looks to me that we have to do all the cleaning to avoid forfiture and they get to pocket the fee.

The house is for sale for $399K. About 6 other houses for sale on the block. At the énd of the street is a pier for fishing a wonderful beach. See pic. It looks much better than the pic.

The quality of construction is appalling. Hard to imagine it can withstand even a few winters and salt filled breezes. Doors are not hung even close to flush. Good appliances and fine for a night or a week.

The ride to Rodanthe was hot but otherwise excellent. For about 12 miles the road is only wide enough for the road so we have the dunes and ocean on one side and the Sound on the oppisite side. Rode from coffee shop to coffee shop; there were only two availaible all day but both were excellent. QB acquired muffins and an excellent cinnamon bun. Get to do laundry tonight with a real machine.

Kudos to the assignment takers. The quality and quantity of reseach and now imparted knowledge on the fish known locally only as Wahoo is impressive and useful for those needing filler in a mystery or travel book. As mentioned earlier the locals insist that the name comes from the feeling of catching the fish.

The recent discovery of a seach engine of the same name ranks along with cream of broccoli soup.

rodanthe.jpg

domicile.jpg

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Isn't Wahoo a search engine for fish?

-Bob

On 10/9/07, Herb Blumstein wrote:
>
> All hail Dee, the researcher par excellence!
> What about Opakapaka – another great fish we had in Maui?
>
>
> On 10/8/07, Dianne Ellsworth wrote:
> >
> > Well, I am very impressed by all the due diligence here in the matter
> > of Ono vs. Ono. Here's some more ephemera I ran across after a quick visit
> > to the Web:* *
> >
> > "Acanthocybium solandri
> >
> > Choice eating fish with white, delicate, flaky meat. The Hawaiian word
> > for "delicious" is *`ono*. *Ono* (no `okina, a diacritical mark) is the
> > fish, and *ono* is *`ono*!
> >
> > The ancient Hawaiians said that the ono was the parent of the *`ôpelu*,
> > a mackerel scad, a fish of great importance to the subsistence living of the
> > early Hawaiians.
> >
> > Early European explorers found ono to be plentiful off the island of *
> > O`ahu*. Wahoo, the common mainland name for this fish is thought to
> > originate from the misspelling of *O`ahu *on maps as "Wahoo."
> >
> > This was from some geocities site I ran across.
> >
> > What do y'all think of the possible name attribution for Wahoo?
> >
> > Also, without going in to where I was when I saw the following, I did
> > see a menu the other day from around 1943 advertising "bluefish with butter
> > sauce" for 80 cents! I bet you paid a tad more for you bluefish dish, eh
> > Jeff?
> >
> > Dee
> >
> >
> > —–Original Message—–
> > From: Herb Blumstein
> > Sent: Oct 8, 2007 2:00 PM
> > To: Bob Morgen
> > Cc: boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net, Vox <980286c3a15f1c66@moblog.vox.com>,
> > Boogs Sack
> > Subject: Re: BSMA Buxton
> >
> > If Wahoo is Ono (or Oahu fish) in Hawaii – as seems to be the case from
> > the various sites I've plumbed for information – then it definitely doesn' t
> > taste like mackerel, judging from the Ono I ate in Maui – very good. That
> > said, Wahoo is acknowledged to be a "scombrid" fish meaning amember of the
> > Scombridae – the mackerel family, even though its moniker is Anthocybium
> > solanderii – very confusing. Very tasty fish. As for mackerel – if it is
> > fresh and properly prepared (including as sashimi or nigiri) it is also
> > tasty, though some faint of heart landlubbers complain about the strong
> > taste – that fishiness increases with decreasing freshness. Smoked mackerel
> > can be reall y good.
> > Nuff said.
> > Apple uglies are not for diabetics like me – too bad!
> > On 10/7/07, Bob Morgen wrote:
> >
> > > Looks like mackerel to me!
> > >
> > > I want apple uglies.I looked up the recipe. Basically they are are a
> > > rich sweet bread dough (like raised doughnut dough) filled with apple pie
> > > filling, folded and fried. Then glazed with sugar syrup. This is American
> > > cooking at its finest. I wonder how many QB bought.
> > >
> > > Hush puppies, a nearly perfect food, are corn bread dough with minced
> > > onions, rolled into balls and deep fried.
> > >
> > > -bob
> > >
> > > On 10/8/07, boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net < boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 7 Oct.
> > > >
> > > > Turns out that this is a holiday weekend so places to stay, clean
> > > > ones, were mostly sold out. Short day today and likely a very long day
> > > > tomorrow. Tall lighthouse here as well as apple uglies.
> > > >
> > > > At 260ft it is the tallest in USA. Or so the ranger said. We climbed
> > > > up for the view.
> > > >
> > > > Herb and Judi references are particularly interesting. An almost
> > > > noncongruent list of names. Both of us are dining on Wahoo this evening.
> > > > See pic.
> > > >
> > > > Also having hush puppies. Are these the same as cornbread except for
> > > > deep frying instead of baking?
> > > >
> > > > Bob. L did indeed try taste but got confused by kipper and defeated
> > > > by New England clam chowder.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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All hail Dee, the researcher par excellence!
What about Opakapaka – another great fish we had in Maui?

On 10/8/07, Dianne Ellsworth wrote:
>
> Well, I am very impressed by all the due diligence here in the matter of
> Ono vs. Ono. Here's some more ephemera I ran across after a quick visit to
> the Web:* *
>
> "Acanthocybium solandri
>
> Choice eating fish with white, delicate, flaky meat. The Hawaiian word for
> "delicious" is *`ono*. *Ono* (no `okina, a diacritical mark) is the fish,
> and *ono* is *`ono*!
>
> The ancient Hawaiians said that the ono was the parent of the *`ôpelu*, a
> mackerel scad, a fish of great importance to the subsistence living of the
> early Hawaiians.
>
> Early European explorers found ono to be plentiful off the island of *
> O`ahu*. Wahoo, the common mainland name for this fish is thought to
> originate from the misspelling of *O`ahu *on maps as "Wahoo."
>
> This was from some geocities site I ran across.
>
> What do y'all think of the possible name attribution for Wahoo?
>
> Also, without going in to where I was when I saw the following, I did see
> a menu the other day from around 1943 advertising "bluefish with butter
> sauce" for 80 cents! I bet you paid a tad more for you bluefish dish, eh
> Jeff?
>
> Dee
>
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: Herb Blumstein
> Sent: Oct 8, 2007 2:00 PM
> To: Bob Morgen
> Cc: boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net, Vox <980286c3a15f1c66@moblog.vox.com>,
> Boogs Sack
> Subject: Re: BSMA Buxton
>
> If Wahoo is Ono (or Oahu fish) in Hawaii – as seems to be the case from
> the various sites I've plumbed for information – then it definitely doesn' t
> taste like mackerel, judging from the Ono I ate in Maui – very good. That
> said, Wahoo is acknowledged to be a "scombrid" fish meaning amember of the
> Scombridae – the mackerel family, even though its moniker is Anthocybium
> solanderii – very confusing. Very tasty fish. As for mackerel – if it is
> fresh and properly prepared (including as sashimi or nigiri) it is also
> tasty, though some faint of heart landlubbers complain about the strong
> taste – that fishiness increases with decreasing freshness. Smoked mackerel
> can be reall y good.
> Nuff said.
> Apple uglies are not for diabetics like me – too bad!
> On 10/7/07, Bob Morgen wrote:
>
> > Looks like mackerel to me!
> >
> > I want apple uglies.I looked up the recipe. Basically they are are a
> > rich sweet bread dough (like raised doughnut dough) filled with apple pie
> > filling, folded and fried. Then glazed with sugar syrup. This is American
> > cooking at its finest. I wonder how many QB bought.
> >
> > Hush puppies, a nearly perfect food, are corn bread dough with minced
> > onions, rolled into balls and deep fried.
> >
> > -bob
> >
> > On 10/8/07, boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net < boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 7 Oct.
> > >
> > > Turns out that this is a holiday weekend so places to stay, clean
> > > ones, were mostly sold out. Short day today and likely a very long day
> > > tomorrow. Tall lighthouse here as well as apple uglies.
> > >
> > > At 260ft it is the tallest in USA. Or so the ranger said. We climbed
> > > up for the view.
> > >
> > > Herb and Judi references are particularly interesting. An almost
> > > noncongruent list of names. Both of us are dining on Wahoo this evening.
> > > See pic.
> > >
> > > Also having hush puppies. Are these the same as cornbread except for
> > > deep frying instead of baking?
> > >
> > > Bob. L did indeed try taste but got confused by kipper and defeated by
> > > New England clam chowder.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

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Well, I am very impressed by all the due diligence here in the matter of Ono vs. Ono.  Here's some more ephemera I ran across after a quick visit to the Web:

"Acanthocybium solandri

Choice eating fish with white, delicate, flaky meat. The Hawaiian word for "delicious" is `ono. Ono (no `okina, a diacritical mark) is the fish, and ono is `ono!

The ancient Hawaiians said that the ono was the parent of the `ôpelu, a mackerel scad, a fish of great importance to the subsistence living of the early Hawaiians.

Early European explorers found ono to be plentiful off the island of O`ahu. Wahoo, the common mainland name for this fish is thought to originate from the misspelling of O`ahu on maps as "Wahoo."

This was from some geocities site I ran across.

What do y'all think of the possible name attribution for Wahoo?

Also, without going in to where I was when I saw the following, I did see a menu the other day from around 1943 advertising "bluefish with butter sauce" for 80 cents!  I bet you paid a tad more for you bluefish dish, eh Jeff?

Dee

—–Original Message—–
From: Herb Blumstein
Sent: Oct 8, 2007 2:00 PM
To: Bob Morgen
Cc: boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net, Vox <980286c3a15f1c66@moblog.vox.com>, Boogs Sack
Subject: Re: BSMA Buxton

If Wahoo is Ono (or Oahu fish) in Hawaii – as seems to be the case from the various sites I've plumbed for information – then it definitely doesn' t taste like mackerel, judging from the Ono I ate in Maui – very good.  That said, Wahoo is acknowledged to be a "scombrid" fish meaning amember of the Scombridae – the mackerel family, even though its moniker is Anthocybium solanderii – very confusing.  Very tasty fish.  As for mackerel – if it is fresh and properly prepared (including as sashimi or nigiri) it is also tasty, though some faint of heart landlubbers complain about the strong taste – that fishiness increases with decreasing freshness.  Smoked mackerel can be reall y  good.

Nuff said.

Apple uglies are not for diabetics like me – too bad!

On 10/7/07, Bob Morgen <bob.morgen@intransa.com> wrote:

Looks like mackerel to me!

I want apple uglies.I looked up the recipe. Basically they are are a rich sweet bread dough  (like raised doughnut dough) filled with apple pie filling, folded and fried. Then glazed with sugar syrup. This is American cooking at its finest. I wonder how many QB bought.

Hush puppies, a nearly perfect food, are corn bread dough with minced onions, rolled into balls and deep fried.

-bob

On 10/8/07, boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net < boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net> wrote:

7 Oct.

Turns out that this is a holiday weekend so places to stay, clean ones, were mostly sold out. Short day today and likely a very long day tomorrow.  Tall lighthouse here as well as apple uglies.

At 260ft it is the tallest in USA. Or so the ranger said. We climbed up for the view.

Herb and Judi references are particularly interesting. An almost noncongruent list of names.  Both of us are dining on Wahoo this evening. See pic.

Also having hush puppies. Are these the same as cornbread except for deep frying instead of baking?

Bob. L did indeed try taste but got confused by kipper and defeated by New England clam chowder.

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If Wahoo is Ono (or Oahu fish) in Hawaii – as seems to be the case from the
various sites I've plumbed for information – then it definitely doesn' t
taste like mackerel, judging from the Ono I ate in Maui – very good. That
said, Wahoo is acknowledged to be a "scombrid" fish meaning amember of the
Scombridae – the mackerel family, even though its moniker is Anthocybium
solanderii – very confusing. Very tasty fish. As for mackerel – if it is
fresh and properly prepared (including as sashimi or nigiri) it is also
tasty, though some faint of heart landlubbers complain about the strong
taste – that fishiness increases with decreasing freshness. Smoked mackerel
can be reall y good.
Nuff said.
Apple uglies are not for diabetics like me – too bad!
On 10/7/07, Bob Morgen wrote:

> Looks like mackerel to me!
>
> I want apple uglies.I looked up the recipe. Basically they are are a rich
> sweet bread dough (like raised doughnut dough) filled with apple pie
> filling, folded and fried. Then glazed with sugar syrup. This is American
> cooking at its finest. I wonder how many QB bought.
>
> Hush puppies, a nearly perfect food, are corn bread dough with minced
> onions, rolled into balls and deep fried.
>
> -bob
>
> On 10/8/07, boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net wrote:
> >
> > 7 Oct.
> >
> > Turns out that this is a holiday weekend so places to stay, clean ones,
> > were mostly sold out. Short day today and likely a very long day
> > tomorrow. Tall lighthouse here as well as apple uglies.
> >
> > At 260ft it is the tallest in USA. Or so the ranger said. We climbed up
> > for the view.
> >
> > Herb and Judi references are particularly interesting. An almost
> > noncongruent list of names. Both of us are dining on Wahoo this evening.
> > See pic.
> >
> > Also having hush puppies. Are these the same as cornbread except for
> > deep frying instead of baking?
> >
> > Bob. L did indeed try taste but got confused by kipper and defeated by
> > New England clam chowder.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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How about the Morgen Taste Classication?  Who better than you to invent such?

or Morgen Taste Scale, comme vous voulez?

—–Original Message—–
From: Bob Morgen
Sent: Oct 7, 2007 11:57 AM
To: boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net
Cc: Vox <980286c3a15f1c66@moblog.vox.com>, Boogs Sack
Subject: Re: BSMA Hatteras

I too was surprised that the Wahoo (which I'd never heard of) was actually the famous Ono (that I remember fondly).

Not so surprised that the Wahoo (or it's cousins) are found in both the Atlantic and the Pacific.  Border control in the ocean is notoriously difficult to enforce.

Least surprised that the Wahoo is a mackerel even though it doesn't taste like other mackerels.  For some reason, Linnaeus forgot to include "taste" in his classification scheme….

-Bob

On 10/7/07, boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net <boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net > wrote:

6 Oct
The large house in the background, one of many such in Hatteras, has 12 or so bedrooms.   The locals referred to these as unregulated hotels.  In the season a single person rents the house and then rents to others – maybe several couples or others.  The house goes for $10K a week in seasoon.   They clearly do not fit into the landscape or feeling of a National Seashore.
In one section of town there are 10 or so in a row..

We had, past tense, some questions about the veracity of Wiki in this case (refer to Bob"s research).   The locals here all insist that wahoo is a local fish, the name comes from the catching.  Apparently nice to fish with a line on a chartered boat.   No sense of mackeral taste at all.  We have had Ono but in this case I suspecedt we have a Nono.  Does the research show the range of the Ono from Hawaii to NC?  That question was answered by the local fishing shop.  Queried them and they said an oceanfish with a very wide range, these Hawaiians just make up names, in  Pacific too.   Wiki's rep is saved.

Then we asked about two other local fishes.  No other names that they knew of. Trigger fish and Cordia.

I like the image of QB in a leather jacket and wind goggles; the scarf too.   However it is 90 plus degrees, 140% humidity (yes water keeps dripping out of the atmosphere).  The goggles might work.

I had hoped to call into the SMCG but connectivity is so spottly that it is unlikely a call could be made or sustained.  Kind thoughts to all and sorry that you are missing this triip.  The area is beautiful and getting better as we travel up the Outerbanks.   As to the weather – it is too hot and humid for humans.  Libby pointed this out a few weeks ago when she visited the AC of NC.

Toes in the Atlantic (not the sound side a few feet away, island is quite narrow).  Walk in the surf, does not get much better.

A hearty thank you to Vanessa Cole at the tourist center. Helpful and friendly. A nice change from the past two centers.

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Looks like mackerel to me!

I want apple uglies.I looked up the recipe. Basically they are are a rich
sweet bread dough (like raised doughnut dough) filled with apple pie
filling, folded and fried. Then glazed with sugar syrup. This is American
cooking at its finest. I wonder how many QB bought.

Hush puppies, a nearly perfect food, are corn bread dough with minced
onions, rolled into balls and deep fried.

-bob

On 10/8/07, boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net wrote:
>
> 7 Oct.
>
> Turns out that this is a holiday weekend so places to stay, clean ones,
> were mostly sold out. Short day today and likely a very long day
> tomorrow. Tall lighthouse here as well as apple uglies.
>
> At 260ft it is the tallest in USA. Or so the ranger said. We climbed up
> for the view.
>
> Herb and Judi references are particularly interesting. An almost
> noncongruent list of names. Both of us are dining on Wahoo this evening.
> See pic.
>
> Also having hush puppies. Are these the same as cornbread except for deep
> frying instead of baking?
>
> Bob. L did indeed try taste but got confused by kipper and defeated by New
> England clam chowder.
>
>
>
>
>

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7 Oct.

Turns out that this is a holiday weekend so places to stay, clean ones, were mostly sold out. Short day today and likely a very long day tomorrow. Tall lighthouse here as well as apple uglies.

At 260ft it is the tallest in USA. Or so the ranger said. We climbed up for the view.

Herb and Judi references are particularly interesting. An almost noncongruent list of names. Both of us are dining on Wahoo this evening. See pic.

Also having hush puppies. Are these the same as cornbread except for deep frying instead of baking?

Bob. L did indeed try taste but got confused by kipper and defeated by New England clam chowder.

apple uglies.jpg

preferred it was bigger.jpg

cave creek he wonders.jpg

wahoo.jpg

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