BSMA Barco

So George completely agrees with me, as usual. This is comforting.

Like I said, lactobacillus (yogurt bugs) are added to the cream prior to
churning. Since the dictionary (I looked) defines yoghurt as fermented milk,
I fail to understand George's objection to the term. Premium butters use
whatever bugs are floating around in the air and so it probably isn't easy
to know which one is actually in the butter. Presumably a mix.

Anyway, I am please to have helped to educate George again.

-Bob

On 10/12/07, gefmey@cox.net wrote:
>
> Oh Bob!! I don't even know where to begin on this one. Your best option
> is to take a short course in food microbiology, or better yet just stick to
> food deep fried in some industrial strength non-microbially reactive
> petroleum product. I hear the French are doing amazing things with vaseline
> and sous vide techniques.
>
> Butter is NOT fermented, at least not intentionally. When butter ferments
> or ages the production of butyric acid gives it that distinctive "Palo Alto"
> characteristic. This is not usually desireable, as it indicates the
> breakdown of the butterfat
>
> You are correct that fermentation does take place but in the milk prior to
> churning in butter that is not labelled "sweet" (most of the US) ut labelled
> "cultured" (most of Europe).
>
> The bacteria that are added however are NOT yogurt bacteria (even to cheap
> butter, unless maybe it comes from China, where there may also be traces of
> lead or dipropylene glycol) which are Lactobacillus acidophilus, and
> Streptococcus. thermophilus. Usually Lactococcus lactis subsp. lactis,
> Lactococcus lactis subsp. cremoris, Lactococcus lactis subsp. lactis biovar.
> diacetylactis, Leuconostoc mesenteroides subsp. cremoris (Leuc. citrovorum)
> is added or the milk is allow to naturally ferment for a day or so.
>
> Remind me not to try any dishes that Bob prepares using his special
> "cultured" butter.
>
> George
> —- Bob Morgen wrote:
> > Sharon's legendary experiments in butter ageing aside, there is
> something to
> > ageing butter. Premium butters are fermented for a few days before
> churning
> > to give them more of a tangy/buttery flavor. Cheaper butters have a bit
> of
> > yogurt bacteria added to hasten the process.
> >
> > Cooks Illustrated did blind tasting on expensive premium butters vs
> cheap
> > butter. While there was a bit of a difference it didn't show up as much
> to
> > most tasters.
> >
> > Interestingly, Land of Lakes did very well both in the premium and
> ordinary
> > butter categories.
> >
> > I looked at what is being offered as expensive premium butters in the
> USA
> > and ironically most of them are ordinary butters in their country of
> > origin. I have tried them all and, while I've never met a butter i
> didn't
> > like, except Sharon's, there isn't much to recommend them over American
> > butters. Our daily household butter here is Kerrygold from Ireland. It
> is
> > the cheapest thing at the market here but sells for a fortune in the
> States.
> > Lurpak, from Denmark, is made in monster sized factories from cows that
> > never see the light of day. The biggest selling French premium in the US
> is
> > the one with rock salt crystals in it. That's cheating.
> >
> > -Bob
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/12/07, Dianne Ellsworth wrote:
> > >
> > > Was 1996 a good year? (for butter).
> > >
> > > Gee, didn't know it was vintage. Is it AOC too?
> > >
> > > I've got lots of butter at my place and you're all welcome to it, but
> it's
> > > pretty recent, so may not have that nice marbling and nose of the
> truly aged
> > > butter.
> > > Dee
> > >
> > > —–Original Message—–
> > > >From: boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net
> > > >Sent: Oct 11, 2007 4:32 PM
> > > >To: Vox <980286c3a15f1c66@moblog.vox.com>, Boogs Sack <
> jwgrey@netbox.com>
> > > >Subject: BSMA Barco
> > > >
> > > >11 Oct.
> > > >
> > > >We are now out of the outer banks and in the dismal swamp. Its real
> name.
> > > Heading to Barco. The only place we found to stay for 90 plus miles
> is a
> > > B&B in Barco. Again a bit less distance than ideal.
> > > >
> > > >Pretty strong headwind (cold front starting to finally come in )
> today on
> > > a 5 lane Hiway with narrow but ok shoulder. The ride is on a barrier
> island.
> > > >
> > > >The B&B turned out to be first rate. 1827 house. Xmas decorated, her
> > > hobby. Loaned us their van so we could get to a rest. A number of
> miles
> > > back.
> > > >
> > > >To repeat the obvious "do not mess about in George's backyard! "
> > > >
> > > >Judi and Bobby have now booked Chez Boog for the holidays.
> Provisioning
> > > being planned. Looking for some 1996 butter.
> > > >
> > > >Dinner was among the yachts on the intercoastal waterway. Another
> cole
> > > slaw, and more crab and shrimp. Home made, still warm, freshly baked,
> > > potato chips.
> > > >
> > > >The chowder, pictured, was fine, no cream. What makes something a
> chowder
> > > rather than a soup?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
>

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Oh Bob!! I don't even know where to begin on this one. Your best option is to take a short course in food microbiology, or better yet just stick to food deep fried in some industrial strength non-microbially reactive petroleum product. I hear the French are doing amazing things with vaseline and sous vide techniques.

Butter is NOT fermented, at least not intentionally. When butter ferments or ages the production of butyric acid gives it that distinctive "Palo Alto" characteristic. This is not usually desireable, as it indicates the breakdown of the butterfat

You are correct that fermentation does take place but in the milk prior to churning in butter that is not labelled "sweet" (most of the US) ut labelled "cultured" (most of Europe).

The bacteria that are added however are NOT yogurt bacteria (even to cheap butter, unless maybe it comes from China, where there may also be traces of lead or dipropylene glycol) which are Lactobacillus acidophilus, and Streptococcus. thermophilus. Usually Lactococcus lactis subsp. lactis, Lactococcus lactis subsp. cremoris, Lactococcus lactis subsp. lactis biovar. diacetylactis, Leuconostoc mesenteroides subsp. cremoris (Leuc. citrovorum) is added or the milk is allow to naturally ferment for a day or so.

Remind me not to try any dishes that Bob prepares using his special "cultured" butter.

George

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Bob,

Well, there you are!  There really is "vintage" butter and of course you would know that.  How could I have thought otherwise?  But this is interesting to hear.

Butter chez moi includes: Plugras (at least "European-style butter, fairly inexpensive at Trader Joe's), and Beurre d'Isigny (which we used in Paris, though as you say, it's not expensive there).  Havent tried the Kerrygold yet, though it's available here.

Our favorite butter is the (sweet) butter we get at Barthelmy, the Paris cheese shop.  It's from Normandy and just comes wrapped in regular paper of some sort, but it has a little cow in a meadow molded into it.  How can one resist?  It does taste somewhat better to me in taste tests conducted during le petit dejuener, and not terribly expensive really.

The chief thing I notice about the European-style butter is that it doesn't turn into water when you cook with it, so that's why I use it.  Well, plus the "it reminds me of Paris" factor.

Dee

 

—–Original Message—–
From: Bob Morgen
Sent: Oct 12, 2007 10:20 AM
To: Dianne Ellsworth
Cc: boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net, Vox <980286c3a15f1c66@moblog.vox.com>, Boogs Sack
Subject: Re: BSMA Barco

Sharon's legendary experiments in butter ageing aside, there is something to ageing butter. Premium butters are fermented for a few days before churning to give them more of a tangy/buttery flavor.  Cheaper butters have a bit of yogurt bacteria added to hasten the process.

Cooks Illustrated did blind tasting on expensive premium butters vs cheap butter. While there was a bit of a difference it didn't show up as much to most tasters.

Interestingly, Land of Lakes did very well both in the premium and ordinary butter categories.

I looked at what is being offered as expensive premium butters in the USA and ironically most of them are ordinary butters in their country of origin.  I have tried them all and, while I've never met a butter i didn't like, except Sharon's, there isn't much to recommend them over American butters. Our daily household butter here is Kerrygold from Ireland. It is the cheapest thing at the market here but sells for a fortune in the States. Lurpak, from Denmark, is made in monster sized factories from cows that never see the light of day. The biggest selling French premium in the US is the one with rock salt crystals in it. That's cheating.

-Bob

On 10/12/07, Dianne Ellsworth <ellswortha@earthlink.net> wrote:

Was 1996 a good year? (for butter).

Gee, didn't know it was vintage.  Is it AOC too?

I've got lots of butter at my place and you're all welcome to it, but it's pretty recent, so may not have that nice marbling and nose of the truly aged butter.
Dee

—–Original Message—–
>From: boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net
>Sent: Oct 11, 2007 4:32 PM
>To: Vox < 980286c3a15f1c66@moblog.vox.com>, Boogs Sack <jwgrey@netbox.com>
>Subject: BSMA Barco
>
>11 Oct.
>
>We are now out of the outer banks and in the dismal swamp. Its real name. Heading to Barco.  The only place we found to stay for 90 plus miles is a B&B in Barco.  Again a bit less distance than ideal.
>
>Pretty strong headwind (cold front starting to finally come in ) today on a 5 lane Hiway with narrow but ok shoulder. The ride is on a barrier island.
>
>The B&B turned out to be first rate. 1827 house. Xmas decorated, her hobby. Loaned us their van so we could get to a rest. A number of miles back.
>
>To repeat the obvious "do not mess about in George's backyard! "
>
>Judi and Bobby have now booked Chez Boog for the holidays. Provisioning being planned. Looking for some 1996 butter.
>
>Dinner was among the yachts on the intercoastal waterway. Another cole slaw, and more crab and shrimp.  Home made, still warm, freshly baked, potato chips.
>
>The chowder, pictured, was fine, no cream. What makes something a chowder rather than a soup?
>
>
>
>
>

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I believe you may have hit on the perfect Christmas gift for me: *The
biggest selling French premium in the US is the one with rock salt crystals
in it.* Sounds absolutely divine! or divoon!

JuJu

On 10/12/07, Bob Morgen wrote:
>
> Sharon's legendary experiments in butter ageing aside, there is something
> to ageing butter. Premium butters are fermented for a few days before
> churning to give them more of a tangy/buttery flavor. Cheaper butters have
> a bit of yogurt bacteria added to hasten the process.
>
> Cooks Illustrated did blind tasting on expensive premium butters vs cheap
> butter. While there was a bit of a difference it didn't show up as much to
> most tasters.
>
> Interestingly, Land of Lakes did very well both in the premium and
> ordinary butter categories.
>
> I looked at what is being offered as expensive premium butters in the USA
> and ironically most of them are ordinary butters in their country of
> origin. I have tried them all and, while I've never met a butter i didn't
> like, except Sharon's, there isn't much to recommend them over American
> butters. Our daily household butter here is Kerrygold from Ireland. It is
> the cheapest thing at the market here but sells for a fortune in the States.
> Lurpak, from Denmark, is made in monster sized factories from cows that
> never see the light of day. The biggest selling French premium in the US is
> the one with rock salt crystals in it. That's cheating.
>
> -Bob
>
>
>
> On 10/12/07, Dianne Ellsworth wrote:
> >
> > Was 1996 a good year? (for butter).
> >
> > Gee, didn't know it was vintage. Is it AOC too?
> >
> > I've got lots of butter at my place and you're all welcome to it, but
> > it's pretty recent, so may not have that nice marbling and nose of the truly
> > aged butter.
> > Dee
> >
> > —–Original Message—–
> > >From: boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net
> > >Sent: Oct 11, 2007 4:32 PM
> > >To: Vox < 980286c3a15f1c66@moblog.vox.com>, Boogs Sack <
> > jwgrey@netbox.com>
> > >Subject: BSMA Barco
> > >
> > >11 Oct.
> > >
> > >We are now out of the outer banks and in the dismal swamp. Its real
> > name. Heading to Barco. The only place we found to stay for 90 plus miles
> > is a B&B in Barco. Again a bit less distance than ideal.
> > >
> > >Pretty strong headwind (cold front starting to finally come in ) today
> > on a 5 lane Hiway with narrow but ok shoulder. The ride is on a barrier
> > island.
> > >
> > >The B&B turned out to be first rate. 1827 house. Xmas decorated, her
> > hobby. Loaned us their van so we could get to a rest. A number of miles
> > back.
> > >
> > >To repeat the obvious "do not mess about in George's backyard! "
> > >
> > >Judi and Bobby have now booked Chez Boog for the holidays. Provisioning
> > being planned. Looking for some 1996 butter.
> > >
> > >Dinner was among the yachts on the intercoastal waterway. Another cole
> > slaw, and more crab and shrimp. Home made, still warm, freshly baked,
> > potato chips.
> > >
> > >The chowder, pictured, was fine, no cream. What makes something a
> > chowder rather than a soup?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

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I am a relatively adventurous cook – have been for years. Lived in CA from
1971 to 1989 so developed some less-than Southern-belle-ish habits (LOL)
during those years. Living in New Orleans area from 1990 to 2005, I
reinvented some of my more genteel tastes, like for a good gumbo and sauteed
shrimp po-boys. Now that I'm in Texas, my style has changed once again. And,
yes, habanero is in my repertoire. I even have a small habanero plant on my
patio and used the fruits for some stew. They are great with almost anything
savory, really. I found Goya Habanero Salsito sauce in my local mega mart –
and use it in soups, stews, salads and dressings, eggs, etc. Yum – and
spicy!

On recent visit to Eureka Springs, Arkansas, I picked up some habanero and
cayenne jerky. Have not eaten it yet – but will savor it when the time is
right!

Cheers to all!

JuJu

On 10/11/07, Herb Blumstein wrote:
>
> Bob is right – the wimpiest cabbage of all is Napa – not for slaw!
> Chinese cabbage also turns to mush – not for slaw!
>
> The "disquisition" is not yet over:
>
> A cabbage variant – raw kohlrabi (kohlrabe) makes an excellent salad. Not
> the leaves – the carefully peeled and julienned roots can be used instead of
> shredded cabbage, with all of the different dressings mentioned. Look for
> fresh green "bulbs" (really roots) still attached to the leaves (you can use
> them for cooking).
> Combine the kohlrabi with thinly sliced onion, julienned or cubed or even
> sliced tart green apples, julienned green bell peppers, and some crispy
> celery stalks finely sliced – and you have a very crunchy, very fresh
> tasting salad which you can dress in a many different ways – in addition to
> those I previously mentioned. Adding toasted walnuts or pecans makes it
> even fancier and does not hurt the taste! Is it technically a "cole slaw"
> (koolsla)? Well, it is certainly a "cruciferous vegetable slaw"!
>
> Strangely enough, Bob, a little mustard and a little sugar are used in
> many Chinese/Asian dishes – not to mention Eastern european cooking. The
> emphasis is on "little" – just enough to change the balance of
> tastes. Homemade mustard or Chinese yellow mustard (very hot) in very small
> amounts, are best but Dijon is good, too. Try it in your mayo
> dressings-what have you got to lose?
>
> JuJu – the idea of a Southern belle putting up a batch of fiery, smelly,
> gut-flaming Kimchi is certainly anomalous but, what the hell, it is a brave
> new culinary world. March on! Are you at the point of using habanero
> (Scotch bonnet) chiles? If so, how?
>
> Who knows how to make choucroute taste good without the sausages and fatty
> meat?
> I once ate a seafood choucroute in the small restaurant at the Rennes
> airport and it was excellent. Any recipes?
>
> Chow down!
> Herb
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 10/11/07, Dianne Ellsworth wrote:
> >
> > Thanks to Bob (for setting me straight on Napa cabbage, via Herb), and
> > thanks to you all (Bob, Herb, Judi, Jeff) for this eloquent and formidable
> > disquisition on Cabbage and Culture, including many receipts for the home
> > cook and histories thereof.
> >
> > I must speak to the Napa cabbage then and see about assertiveness
> > training for it (also big in California), and will look elsewhere for now
> > for cabbage adequate to call itself cole slaw material.
> >
> > Yr. humbled servant,
> >
> > Dee
> >
> >
> > —–Original Message—–
> > From: Bob Morgen
> > Sent: Oct 11, 2007 7:25 AM
> > To: JuJu
> > Cc: Herb Blumstein , Libby Trudell , boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net, Vox <980286c3a15f1c66@moblog.vox.com>,
> > Boogs Sack
> > Subject: Re: BSMA Kills Devil Hills
> >
> > So the South rises again with its culinary contribution of cole slaw =
> > cabbage + pineapple + miracle whip.
> >
> > The Brits would probably like it on their ham sandwiches.
> >
> > -Bob
> >
> > On 10/11/07, JuJu wrote:
> > >
> > > I love kimchi! That stuff is so darn good – and it goes with almost
> > > everything but dessert. Many years – actually about 30 years – ago, I made
> > > some kimchi. That stuff almost ate through the glass bottle in which it
> > > fermented. But, it was SOOOO GOOD!
> > >
> > > I'm not a fan of cole slaw, in general, as it usually has either
> > > celery seed or caraway seed, neither of which are on my "edible items" list.
> > > And, heaven help us – there are people who think that pineapple and cabbage,
> > > plus mynez (that's southern talk for mayo) = cole slaw. At least it's closer
> > > to being edible than many I've been served.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 10/11/07, Bob Morgen wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I may have to reconsider. Herb may actually like English cole slaw.
> > > > Mustard and sugar.
> > > >
> > > > Oy.
> > > >
> > > > However, I am impressed by the recommendation to try nuoc mam. But
> > > > we are moving dangerously close to Kimchi territory here.
> > > >
> > > > -Bob
> > > >
> > > > On 10/11/07, Herb Blumstein wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you Bob – that is a new one for me – the almost pureed
> > > > > onion, I mean. Caraway is ok but I prefer it in schnapps/aquavit. It
> > > > > doesn't prevent flatulence and it is disruptive in cole slaw. Just when you
> > > > > are settling down to the spicy, sweet and salty taste of the cabbage, the
> > > > > slightly bitter, acrid taste of caraway distracts your taste buds. I don't
> > > > > love it in rye bread either.
> > > > > I can't begin to think how many times I've eaten cole slaw –
> > > > > especially when we were tight for money.
> > > > > My own recipes:
> > > > > Basic:
> > > > > 1. Head of young and sweet light-green cabbage, quartered with the
> > > > > stem core (the heart!) removed. None of that giant, fibrous cabbage stuff
> > > > > and no red/blue/purple cabbage -it is too coarse and tough.
> > > > > 2. Carefully slice down across the short dimension of each quarter
> > > > > of the cabbage – widths no greater than 1/4 of an inch, preferably less. Do
> > > > > not dice or chop cabbage or throw it about impatiently.
> > > > > At this point, I usually wash the sliced cabbage in a colander and
> > > > > then dry it throughly – but then I'm the only one I know who does that.
> > > > > 3. Use a mandoline to slice one-half (or more!) of an onion very
> > > > > thinly. Or if you are truly skilled, slice it with a knife. Don't worry if
> > > > > you cry into the onion it – it will improve the flavor.
> > > > > 4.Two or three large sweet carrots – taste them first! – grated.
> > > > > If you haven't got sweet carrots, leave them out. Consider very finely
> > > > > julienned sweet red or yellow peppers as a possible alternative to carrots –
> > > > > but much more work to do that
> > > > > 5. Toss with dressing and let stand – an hour is ok, more is
> > > > > better. In the fridge, of course.
> > > > >
> > > > > Basic dressings:
> > > > > 1. Mayonnaise – If store bought check for taste and add dijon
> > > > > mustard, some lemon or vinegar (apple cider vinegar, malt vinegar, rice
> > > > > vinegar – not wine vinegar) – not too much!
> > > > > You can add some white wine, very little, maybe a tablespoon.
> > > > > Some white sugar – a scant teaspoon or less.
> > > > > Fresh ground pepper. Me, I like a bit of hot sauce as well.
> > > > > Salt, only after you have tossed the salad with the mayonnaise
> > > > > and found it lacking in salt!
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. Oil (olive, walnut) and vinegar – some dijon mustard, fresh
> > > > > ground pepper and salt, a teaspoon or less of sugar, to taste,shaken (not
> > > > > stirred),. Not too much salt! Add some hot sauce – without garlic!
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. Soy sauce, walnut or other light oil, some toasted sesame oil,
> > > > > a little sugar, rice vinegar and hot stuff – no garlic.
> > > > >
> > > > > Enhancers
> > > > > 1. Curry added to the mayonnaise- to taste. Bump up the sugar,
> > > > > mustard and hot stuff a bit.
> > > > > 2. Caraway seeds- for those who must have them.
> > > > > 3. Ground cumin added to the mayonnaise, in small quantities only.
> > > > > 4. Cilantro, leaves only, finely sliced. Some people like
> > > > > parsley…some don't
> > > > > 5. Golden seedless raisins
> > > > > 6. Finely julienned tart green apples
> > > > > 7. For the truly adventurous, some nuoc mam or other type of
> > > > > fermented fish oil and bump up the vinegar, hot sauce and sugar a bit. Yes,
> > > > > you do develop a taste for it! Just keep it off your hands…
> > > > > et cetera
> > > > > Let's face it, there are tons of possibilities. The only true
> > > > > prohibition (to my narrow mind) is against the use of garlic – and that's
> > > > > coming from a garlic lover.
> > > > > Let's hear some more recipes.
> > > > > Herb
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/10/07, Bob Morgen wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If Herb's theory were right, then we would have even finer cole
> > > > > > slaw here in England. Some of our cabbages are the size of pumpkins. And
> > > > > > about as tough on the outside.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I will keep my opinion of English cole slaw brief.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Garbage.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here is my recipe for perfect cole slaw, based on the one I used
> > > > > > to make at the Wild Mountain Café in Mill Valley during my misspent youth:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mince an onion to near pureé status. Mix it into a cup of mayo
> > > > > > and add a tsp of caraway seeds. Grate a carrot into it. Add just enough
> > > > > > chopped cabbage (color irrelevant) to thin out the mayonnaise to a non-guilt
> > > > > > level. Let it sit a couple of hours in the fridge. Eat.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The English put cole slaw onto ham sandwiches. Nuff said.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Bob
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 10/10/07, Libby Trudell wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That's one impressive lighthouse. Hope you are bearing up
> > > > > > > under the heat –
> > > > > > > we are actually having a light autumnal rain here at the
> > > > > > > moment.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > —–Original Message—–
> > > > > > > From: boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net [mailto:boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net
> > > > > > > ]
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 4:01 PM
> > > > > > > To: Vox; Boogs Sack
> > > > > > > Subject: BSMA Kills Devil Hills
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 9 Oct.
> > > > > > > Another scorching day with a spectacular ride up pea island
> > > > > > > and bodie
> > > > > > > island. Thousands of birds. Welcome center had good scopes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Lunch break in the beach town Nags Head.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > New record temp. Lucky us.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cole Slaw. There must be a thousand variations on three basic
> > > > > > > sauces. But
> > > > > > > why is it that the Slaw is always best in the East?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Another fine pound of perfect steamed local shrimp. Sigh.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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Sharon's legendary experiments in butter ageing aside, there is something to
ageing butter. Premium butters are fermented for a few days before churning
to give them more of a tangy/buttery flavor. Cheaper butters have a bit of
yogurt bacteria added to hasten the process.

Cooks Illustrated did blind tasting on expensive premium butters vs cheap
butter. While there was a bit of a difference it didn't show up as much to
most tasters.

Interestingly, Land of Lakes did very well both in the premium and ordinary
butter categories.

I looked at what is being offered as expensive premium butters in the USA
and ironically most of them are ordinary butters in their country of
origin. I have tried them all and, while I've never met a butter i didn't
like, except Sharon's, there isn't much to recommend them over American
butters. Our daily household butter here is Kerrygold from Ireland. It is
the cheapest thing at the market here but sells for a fortune in the States.
Lurpak, from Denmark, is made in monster sized factories from cows that
never see the light of day. The biggest selling French premium in the US is
the one with rock salt crystals in it. That's cheating.

-Bob

On 10/12/07, Dianne Ellsworth wrote:
>
> Was 1996 a good year? (for butter).
>
> Gee, didn't know it was vintage. Is it AOC too?
>
> I've got lots of butter at my place and you're all welcome to it, but it's
> pretty recent, so may not have that nice marbling and nose of the truly aged
> butter.
> Dee
>
> —–Original Message—–
> >From: boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net
> >Sent: Oct 11, 2007 4:32 PM
> >To: Vox <980286c3a15f1c66@moblog.vox.com>, Boogs Sack
> >Subject: BSMA Barco
> >
> >11 Oct.
> >
> >We are now out of the outer banks and in the dismal swamp. Its real name.
> Heading to Barco. The only place we found to stay for 90 plus miles is a
> B&B in Barco. Again a bit less distance than ideal.
> >
> >Pretty strong headwind (cold front starting to finally come in ) today on
> a 5 lane Hiway with narrow but ok shoulder. The ride is on a barrier island.
> >
> >The B&B turned out to be first rate. 1827 house. Xmas decorated, her
> hobby. Loaned us their van so we could get to a rest. A number of miles
> back.
> >
> >To repeat the obvious "do not mess about in George's backyard! "
> >
> >Judi and Bobby have now booked Chez Boog for the holidays. Provisioning
> being planned. Looking for some 1996 butter.
> >
> >Dinner was among the yachts on the intercoastal waterway. Another cole
> slaw, and more crab and shrimp. Home made, still warm, freshly baked,
> potato chips.
> >
> >The chowder, pictured, was fine, no cream. What makes something a chowder
> rather than a soup?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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Was 1996 a good year? (for butter).

Gee, didn't know it was vintage. Is it AOC too?

I've got lots of butter at my place and you're all welcome to it, but it's pretty recent, so may not have that nice marbling and nose of the truly aged butter.
Dee

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What makes a soup a chowder?

You aren't going to like this but the answer is chunks and fat. Cream
usually. Chowder is a rich fish soup. Manhattan clam chowder is really soup.
The white stuff is chowder. Chowder is chunky, thick and rich.

I told you that you wouldn't like this but sometimes the truth must be
spoken.

According to my dictionary, "chowder" descends from the Normandaise word
"caudron" which means cauldron. The Normans never made anything without
cream.

-Bob

On 10/12/07, boogkb@tmo.blackberry.net wrote:
>
> 11 Oct.
>
> We are now out of the outer banks and in the dismal swamp. Its real name.
> Heading to Barco. The only place we found to stay for 90 plus miles is a
> B&B in Barco. Again a bit less distance than ideal.
>
> Pretty strong headwind (cold front starting to finally come in ) today on
> a 5 lane Hiway with narrow but ok shoulder. The ride is on a barrier island.
>
> The B&B turned out to be first rate. 1827 house. Xmas decorated, her
> hobby. Loaned us their van so we could get to a rest. A number of miles
> back.
>
> To repeat the obvious "do not mess about in George's backyard! "
>
> Judi and Bobby have now booked Chez Boog for the holidays. Provisioning
> being planned. Looking for some 1996 butter.
>
> Dinner was among the yachts on the intercoastal waterway. Another cole
> slaw, and more crab and shrimp. Home made, still warm, freshly baked,
> potato chips.
>
> The chowder, pictured, was fine, no cream. What makes something a chowder
> rather than a soup?
>
>
>
>
>
>

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11 Oct.

We are now out of the outer banks and in the dismal swamp. Its real name. Heading to Barco. The only place we found to stay for 90 plus miles is a B&B in Barco. Again a bit less distance than ideal.

Pretty strong headwind (cold front starting to finally come in ) today on a 5 lane Hiway with narrow but ok shoulder. The ride is on a barrier island.

The B&B turned out to be first rate. 1827 house. Xmas decorated, her hobby. Loaned us their van so we could get to a rest. A number of miles back.

To repeat the obvious "do not mess about in George's backyard! "

Judi and Bobby have now booked Chez Boog for the holidays. Provisioning being planned. Looking for some 1996 butter.

Dinner was among the yachts on the intercoastal waterway. Another cole slaw, and more crab and shrimp. Home made, still warm, freshly baked, potato chips.

The chowder, pictured, was fine, no cream. What makes something a chowder rather than a soup?

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BSMA Kills Devil Hills

Omigosh, folks–the dreaded brussels sprouts are back! (lurking behind the kohlrabi). Some of you were participants in that heated discussion some months back.

Here are a few more tidbits from the Wikipedia (below)–maybe we should revive the Kohlrabi festival?

BTW-George:
the Wikip. mentions that the lateral (swollen) meristem growth is produced by artificial selection. Are we in GMO country here? Mutant kohlrabi (eeek!)

From the Wiki: "…kohlrabi can be eaten raw as well as cooked.

There are several varieties commonly available, including White Vienna, Purple Vienna, Grand Duke, Gigante (also known as "Superschmeltz"), Purple Danube, and White Danube. Coloration of the purple types is superficial: the edible parts are all pale yellow.

Hamburg Township, Michigan, USA, has titled itself the "Kohlrabi Capital of the World" and at one time had a kohlrabi festival which drew 600 people at its peak in 1985. [1]

Some varieties are grown as feed for cattle."

Meanwhile, I will slink off into the sunset with my half of a wimpy Napa cabbage.
Dee

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